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Science Po and Assas are two rival schools in France, and a fierce competition has started a few year ago. It's decribed in this L'Étudiant article (well know French Newspaper dedicated to education) in the following ways[1] :
« La compétition ne fait que commencer (the competition has just started) »
« Droit : Assas et Sciences po en concurrence frontale (law : Assas and Sciences po on a Head-on competition) »
« chacun des deux établissements va chasser sur les terres de l'autre (each of these schools has started poaching on the other's speciality). »
« « notre "collège de droit" est au cœur de notre politique d'identification forte » - Louis Vogel, president of assas University (the Law school is the main herald of our PR policy)[1] »
« extrême rivalité qui règne entre l'IEP parisien et la célèbre fac de droit (extreme rivalty between Science Po and Assas) »
I can go on and on, but these schools are big rival in France, and it's not never a surprise when dirty politics start between them.
On FR.Wikipedia, someone speaking on the behalf of the university has already tried in the past to edit the article, so Wikipédia is seen as a media that needsto be edited for the university [2].
We have had to face a SPA on the French Wikipédia for months, whose only goal was to aggressively (words and beheaviour) promote Assas. As you can see, the very same contributor has been doing the same thing here. The individual, or the company, in charge of this very aggressive PR compaign has a very distinctive beheaviour with a few key patterns :
- Obsession with the notion of "heir"/"héritière". Even if references explain that the division of the University of Paris was a complexe task, s/he will only use references using this expression.
- Obsession with the word Sorbonne, even if this building has never been used by the faculty of law.
- Massive use of Eduniversal rankings. That company had to face legal threat from various universities, including the Ministry of education because of it's commercial practices (because selling free products is basically a scam, among other things) [3].
The methods used are also the same : pretending that there is somewhere a consensus in order to revert, trying to have the article protected on his/her version, creating a lot of counterfire (ANI...). It would be very long to summarize everything, so consider reading the talk page or fr:Discussion:Université Panthéon-Assas, there are a lot of links and in depth explanation.
Droas82 (d · c · b) | Launebee (d · c · b) | |
Creation of the account | 1st of December 2015, 14H29 | 1st of December 2015, 15:16 |
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Massive use of SPA and or IPs to put back a version of the article eaquals to Droas82-Launebee | * Dumas JE, Jcapnthon, Oakti96, LTANCREDE, Tesutr (open proxy blocked, Eduniversal). Not a single new account after the end of Droas82's contribution on this article. 82.66.154.166 (heir of the faculty of Law) | *Slycinny (template removal, Eduniversal ranking, Sorbonne...), Relsissi5588 (revert, ranked first, Sorbonne...) |
Revert because there is a so called "consensus" somewhere, feigning of "taking into account" an other contributor's remarks, revering to his/her version because of a lack of concensus | [4], [5], [6] (reverted by an other contributor as there is no real consensus on the talk page), [7] (reverted by an other contributor as there is no real consensus), [8] (reverted by an other contributor as there is no real consensus), reverted because has obviously lied about a so-called concensus, [9], revert despite a R3R and removal of the R3R model, | Texte de la cellule |
Assas as the Best in all the rankings | [10] (removing the refnec), [11], [12] | Texte de la cellule |
Sorbonne everywhere, even if that building has never been used by the faculty of Law | [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], "l'héritière légitime de (...) la Sorbonne", [20] | Texte de la cellule |
Eduniversal/best rankings/the First in France... | only external links added at the end of the article belong to Eduniversal, [21], "elle occupe la première place des classements français", "premiers rangs des classements nationaux", [22], [23], [24] | Texte de la cellule |
Prestigious | [25], [26]... | Texte de la cellule |
Héritière/heir | [27], [28], cette université en est l’héritière principale, [https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universit%C3%A9_Panth%C3%A9on-Assas&diff=next&oldid=128165679 | Texte de la cellule |
What other contributors says about this contributor | Celette (d · c · b)« Ce combat ubuesque pour se présenter comme étant le "1er héritier" est assez puéril » | Texte de la cellule |
Long story short. The same contributor has tried the same strategy on FR and EN, with the same goal. It was carefully thought before starting the campaign, as the 2 accounts have been created on the very same day, just a few minutes appart, and have refrained from editing on an other Wikipédia. Still, that falls under the definition of Sock puppetry, especially if you include the SPAs and IPs used to back these actions.
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Templates used as weapon against other rival colleges[modifier | modifier le code]
- Pantheon-Sorbonne University : POV dispute templates added :
- HEC : POV dispute templates added :
- Science Po : POV dispute templates added :
- 17 July 2016 (also his/her first edit on the page),
- 8 August 2016,
- 13 August 2016,
- 17 September 2016. It was not put back after that, because obviously having 46 out of 60 references devoting to the criticism section if perfectly fine and neutral, especially when these references allow to deal with nazis, freemassonery, homosexuality, drugs, and prostitures[30].
And for Assas ? Well, not always removing POV dispute templates. Multiple use of sock puppet, and IPs
- 4 March 2016(and same day)
- 13 March 2016
- 5 April 2016
- 29 November 2016
- 30 November 2016
- 30 November 2016
- 30 November 2016
- 1 December 2016
... (yes, a very long history log, so let's skip to the last removals)
- 12 May 2017
- 14 May 2017
- 28 May 2017
- 28 May 2017
- 2 June 2017
- 12 September 2017
- 13 september 2017
- 13 september 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 13 September 2017
- 16 September 2017
- 16 September 2017
Please not that the last 20 (!) templates removal by Launebee were done as more that 20 solid references were waiting on the talk page, as the university had to deal by some controversies during the last decades (only to be faced by legal threat if any of these reached the main page)[31].
Other contributors have also tried to put it back, but without any success.
- 73.212.115.205 :
- Midas02 (d · c · b) :
- Mr rnddude (d · c · b) :
Edit-waring, and article protection[modifier | modifier le code]
- Sciences Po : 8 times since Launebee's arrival, none before [32]
- Assas : 3 times since Launebee's arrival, none before [33]
- Sarah Piovezan, « Sciences po versus Assas : la compétition ne fait que commencer », L'Étudiant, (lire en ligne, consulté le )