Discussion:Vladimir Komarov

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La source "Starman" semble être très contestable, en ce qu'elle relate une version qui relève essentiellement de la fiction. Je ne suis pas spécialiste mais voici ce qu'en dit quelqu'un de mieux informé que moi. (message d'origine)

No. this is completely false.

The mainstream story seems to be that it was a suicide mission, in which Komarov and everybody that worked on it knew it was a suicide mission, and that Komarov only took the mission because he didn't want his dear friend Yuri Gagarin it.

This is entirely false. It's a fictional story that can find its source in the book "Starman: The Truth Behind The Legend Of Yuri Gagarin" written by Jamie Doran and Piers Bizony. The source they used for these claims are a single KGB bodyguard, named Venyamin Russayev, who had had some contact with Yuri Gagarin and goes directly against basically any other, more reliable sources of the incident. This article makes a good job criticizing all the faults in this book. It's basically a fictional tale to make their book more exciting.

The death of Komarov was the cause of gross neglect, mainly from Kremlin, who wanted the Soyuz spacecraft to have finished its development by the 50th anniversary of the October revolution. This meant test flights earlier than they wanted. However nobody who worked on the project actually thought he would die. Komarov was rather indifferent towards the mission (if anything he advocated for it since he and many of his cosmonauts colleagues wanted it to fly as fast as possible) and what was expected from the rushed development was that they wouldn't be able to test all the systems they wanted to test for the vehicle while it was in orbit which would mean the launch would just have been a wasted one for pure propaganda and further push up the development of the Soyuz. He most likely didn't think anything was going wrong until the very last few minutes of his life when the parachutes failed to deploy.

What went wrong was the parachute and the cause of this failure was that when they tested unmanned prototypes of the soyuz vehicle it had burned a small hole through the heatshield and since it landed in the Aral sea it sunk from the water intake. Because of this they added a thicker (aka more heavy) heat shield for the Soyuz 1 landing capsule which meant they needed a bigger parachute. This new parachute still had to be placed in the same space as the previous slightly smaller one but it was deemed enough space for it to work either way (they literally had to use wooden hammers to get it to fit). This is what lead to the parachute to fail and to Komarov to crash land and die on impact. The parachute (as well as the backup parachute) were simply stored too tightly which made them unable to release. Nobody actually believed at the time it was a suicide mission, especially not Komarov himself. Boris Chertok even wrote in his memoirs that he fully expected to see a fully alive Komarov to greet at the airport.

Yuri Gagarin was not scheduled at all for this mission either. He was not a backup. He was however Komarov's friend as the first groups of cosmonauts became very close to each other. The open casket also has nothing to do with "showing the Soviet leaders what they had done". Open caskets were a tradition for people in his position, it was open to show respect for the sacrifice they had made for "the motherland". If anything it was another good propaganda piece. They did the exact same thing for other prominent Soviet heroes of space. Like Sergei Korolev and the three cosmonauts that died during the Soyuz 11 incident.

If you want to truly read up on the incident there are some sources to start with.

The documentary "The Red Stuff" has a bunch of interviews from Komarov's former cosmonaut colleagues that describe the situation in detail. They in fact confirm that Komarov had no idea the project was rushed until he was already coming back to Earth. Starts around the 55:00 mark.

The book "Rockets and People" written by Boris Chertok, who was one of the lead designers of the Soyuz project and later became the deputy chief designer of RSC Energia also goes into detail about the incident and causes, in vol 3 chapter 20 to be exact. I highly recommend this book if you're interested in the Soviet space program. It's incredibly information dense however so be warned.

It was never some tragic story about a cosmonaut taking a suicide mission knowing he would die just so he could protect his dear friend.

It's a story of a cosmonaut who took a mission he had confidence in which ended in his tragic death because of rushed developments. Very akin to similar incidents like Apollo 1.


Les restes de l’astronaute Vladimir Komarv :[modifier le code]

Les restes de l’astronaute Vladimir Komarv, un homme qui a fait une chute depuis l’espace, 1967.Voir photographie : http://bridoz.com/plus-de-20-cliches-historiques-que-vous-navez-sans-doute/19/ --Jean11170 (discuter) 3 juillet 2017 à 16:34 (CEST)[répondre]