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Est ce que le robot supprime automatiquement les plus vieux evenements ? DarkoNeko いちご 7 juin 2006 à 12:17 (CEST)
- Le bot conserve cinq (5) jours, ie. tous les jours, un jour est supprimé. Je peux demander plus, moins que cinq jours, si vous le souhaitez. À chaque update, le bot remplace toutes ses données (il y a aussi un mode append mais c'est moins efficace). jd ৸ 7 juin 2006 à 12:52 (CEST)
Question subsidiaire, est-il possible de travailler avec cette page sans être avoir autant de bras que Shiva et sans avoir m'impression d'être Sisyphe ? ^^; Étant donné que je fais un peu de Désormais sur Commons, je l'aurais bien suivi, mais c'est un vrai flood. ^^ Eden ✍ 7 juin 2006 à 12:29 (CEST)
- Ne te laisse pas impressionner par la page multicolore. Déjà, certaines entrées ne bougent pas : à part « Derniers évènements » et == XX mois == où XX est la date du jour, les autres parties sont fixes. On peut donc simplement en faire une relecture. Le ticker n'est pas là pour clignoter à chaque nouvel évènement, mais pour faire une liste de temps en temps (toutes les deux heures si je ne m'abuse, je demanderai à Duesentrieb). Aussi, une bonne utilisation selon moi serait de venir « de temps en temps » sur la page et de faire les vérifications nécessaires pour les évènements de la veille, plutôt que de faire la chasse aux derniers évènements toutes les cinq minutes. Peut-être faudrait-il monter une petite organisation des tâches... Je vais voir comment les allemands et autres se débrouillent. jd ৸ 7 juin 2006 à 12:52 (CEST)
Je demande confirmation à tout hazard, car on n'est jamais trop prudent et ça n'est pas forcement évident au premier abord :
- Est ce qu'il serait possible de supprimer ou modifier des lignes dans les sections (pour indiquer que tel ou tel élément a déjà été traité) sans que ça n'affecte le fonctionnemment du robot ? Je présume que oui si le mode append est choisi, mais je préfère demander au cas ou :)
- Dans la même idée, est ce que ça risque de casser le mode append si...
- l'on rajoute des ===sous sections=== dans un jour ?
- On enleve une section (un jour) manuellement ?
- On modifie le titre d'une section ?
(ça me parait peu probable si ça ajoute juste a la toute fin de la page, mais on sait jamais)
Et enfin la question qui tue :
- Pourquoi le mode append est-il moins efficace ? Est ce que ça signifie que le bot modifie des entrées déjà ajoutées s'il detecte que les coorection attendues ont été faites (genre suppression des liens vers images n'existant plus)
En tout cas, il me paraitrait très utile de pouvoir supprimer ou barrer les lignes de choses qu'on a traité (s'il n'y a rien d'uatomatique de ce coté là). DarkoNeko いちご 7 juin 2006 à 13:10 (CEST)
- Youhou jd~~ DarkoNeko いちご 13 juin 2006 à 00:34 (CEST)
- Réponse de Duesentrieb (en retard, mais réponse quand même :). jd ৸ 9 juillet 2006 à 02:08 (CEST)
CommonsTicker: new version to fix some problems[modifier le code]
Hello - sorry, the privious message was a bit broken. Below is a full repost. Sorry again -- CommonsBot 20 juin 2006 à 16:48 (CEST)
Hi - you may have noticed some problems with CommonsTicker lately - namely, some entries about deletions went missing, and some entries arrived several days late (messing up the date headings for ticker pages using append mode). This is caused by the massive replication lag we currently see on the toolserver (it's more than a day behind). While I hope this will not happen again in the future, I have been working on improving CommonsTicker so it handles out-of-sync entries gracefully.
I plan to activate a new version of CommonsTicker tonight or tomorrow - so look out for any new problems. Here are the most relevant changes:
- fix handling of out-of-sync records (see above); added "latecomer" parameter to TickerEntry template (may be ignored)
- deleted images can be restored now. To reflect this, I have added a "restored" action to CommonsTicker. To use it, you need to change your templates and/or CSS like this.
- for pages in append-mode, there an empty "status" parameter is now handed to the TickerEntry template - this parameter can be set manually to trigger some type of marking or highliting, depending on how you set up your template and CSS. See here for an example that strikes out the entry if status is set to "done".
For the future, I'm planning to let CommonsTicker post warnings to the talk page of articles that use an image das is (about to be) deleted. I'll post another announcement when that feature is ready.
This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsBot 20 juin 2006 à 16:48 (CEST)
CommonsTicker: new version, new features[modifier le code]
Hello. A new version of CommonsTicker will be rolled out soon (probably tomorrow). Please have an eye on what the bot is doing, and report any problems to m:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker. Some of the changes are:
- the ticker can now post warnings to the talk page of articles that are using "endangered" images. This is not enabled per default, and you can select for which namespaces it is done. If you want this feature, please request it at m:User:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker#Change_Requests.
- in append mode, there are now three empty template parameters: status, editor, and notic. The ticker does not use them itself, but you can use them in the TickerEntry template, for example to strike through entries that have been fixed. en:wikinews has already been using this for a while now.
- if the ticker fails to post an update, a warning is posted to your and the ticker's talk page. In append mode, the ticker will also re-try to post the update on the next pass. Until now, failed updates where simply ignored.
- edit summaries become a bit more informative.
I hope these changes will help to make CommonsTicker more used and more useful.
On a related note: you may have noticed that on long pages, entries near the bottom of the page are sometimes not expanded but rendered just as {{TickerEntry}} or similar. This is due to a new limit to template expansion - see bugzilla:7005. To avoid it, try to keep the page short and/or try to simplify the TickerEntry template.
This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsBot 21 août 2006 à 01:17 (CEST)
Un vote pour approuver un bot delinkant automatiquement les images de commons effacé, voir aussi la présentation du bot. - phe 23 septembre 2006 à 15:39 (CEST)
CommonsTicker failed to post update: fr-wikipedia-org.ticker.wiki.20061128022846.pending[modifier le code]
CommonsTicker was unable to post the latest update to the ticker page. This may happen if there is a temporary problem with the servers or the network, or if the page has grown verry big.
If you use "append" mode, please keep the page reasonably short, perhaps by moving old entries that still need attention to a separate page, which could be included in the main ticker page. Note that CommonsTicker will re-try to post the update on the next run.
If you use "replace" mode, please consider requesting a shorter interval (less days) to watch. CommonsTicker will not try to re-post the update, since it will replace the entire page on the next run anyway.
(this is an automated message) -- CommonsBot 28 novembre 2006 à 03:35 (CET)
CommonsTicker failed to post update: fr-wikipedia-org.ticker.wiki.20061128062721.pending[modifier le code]
CommonsTicker was unable to post the latest update to the ticker page. This may happen if there is a temporary problem with the servers or the network, or if the page has grown verry big.
If you use "append" mode, please keep the page reasonably short, perhaps by moving old entries that still need attention to a separate page, which could be included in the main ticker page. Note that CommonsTicker will re-try to post the update on the next run.
If you use "replace" mode, please consider requesting a shorter interval (less days) to watch. CommonsTicker will not try to re-post the update, since it will replace the entire page on the next run anyway.
(this is an automated message) -- CommonsBot 28 novembre 2006 à 07:37 (CET)
CommonsTicker: Ticker Trouble[modifier le code]
Hello
As you may have noticed, there have been some problems with CommonsTicker lately:
- first, the toolserver was down. After it was back up, we had to wait for fresh database dumps.
- also, many updates where failing because ticker pages where growing too large. Updates that went through half-way somtimes also caused entries to be posted multiple times, making the problem worse.
- when I tried to improve performance, I introduced a bug that caused the ticker to post trash sometimes. I disabled the ticker again when I was told about it, and I have fixed all effected pages yesterday (I hope I didn't miss any).
To sort this out completely, I have to rewrite parts of CommonsTicker. For now, I will enable the ticker again for most wikis, but not for the ones that where having most trouble - namely de-wikipedia, en-wikinews, eo-wikipedia, es-wikipedia, fr-wikipedia, ja-wikipedia, ru-wikipedia, simple-wikipedia and zh-wikipedia. I'll have to investigate those more closely.
So please keep an eye on CommonsTicker in the next days - if there is any more trouble, please tell me, preferrably on meta:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker.
Regards -- meta:User:Duesentrieb 5 janvier 2007 à 14:35 (CET)
This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsBot 5 janvier 2007 à 14:35 (CET)