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Ne retirez pas ce message tant que la demande de suppression n’est pas close. Raison pour la demande de suppression : This map presents itself as historical but at best it's conjectural and should maybe be renamed alt history if it cannot be deleted, much like the other maps by User:Ingoman. The Ethiopian Empire, Solomonic Ethiopia, Abyssinia, or Medieval Ethiopia are all widely accepted names in Ethiopian studies and historiography by the academic community. "Habesha kingdom" has never been used, even to refer to predecessor states such as Axum or Zagwe, and is likely a purposeful choice by the maker of this map to disassociate modern-day Ethiopia from it's previous governments or the region from the name "Ethiopia" itself. Likewise, the idea that the Ifat or successor states such as the Adal sultanate ever ruled the eastern tip of the Horn of Africa is completely false. Ifat was ruled by a Sultan in Zeila and was centered in that historic port city, with lang further inland stretching to the former central regions of the Shewa Sultanate, which they conquered, such as the Harar plateau. The Funj Sultanate also did not extend influece that far across south-eastern sudan at any point and time. It wasn't even half that size at it's peak centuries later. This is probably due to the maps creator conflating Funj with the modern Sudanese state rather than basing it on anything that actually existed during that time period. Funj actually sent tribute to Ethiopia in the form of produce and camels even during the Ethio-Adal war, and would continue to be a tributary during the Gondarine period. Along with that, neither did any sort of Afar state such as the "Danakil Sultanate," with the region historically being under the control of Ethiopian Emperors such as Baede Maryam. Likewise, the Beja kingdom of Bazin was not in existence until the 9th century, and before that the Bazin people were mentioned as being under Axumite rule in the Ezana Stone. The Beja Belew kingdoms were all destroyed at one point or another in the late medieval period, with the southernmost of those ruling central Eritrea being conquered by the Emperor Amde Tsion during the time of this map. The kingdom of Kaffas origin is disputed with many historical discrepancies, at the most it was founded in the 14th or 15th century as a ruling dynasty at the southernmost fringes of the Ethiopian Empire during that time, and the Doba kingdom was never a state, but more-so a clan or ethnic group of pastoralist people which today make up one of the patrilineal lineages of the Afar. They never had centralized leadership and by the time of Dawit I would have already been subdued by the aforementioned emperors. The Oromo people also would not have united for a common political or military cause until the 1520s (time of the second Dawit). The only accurate states are the Ajuran Sultanate and Rasulid Yemen, although I wouldn't doubt they have numerous inaccuracies as well. These maps were known to be false and not based on Scholarly work as far back as 2017 (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Oromo_people/Archive_2).
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