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This is a discussion page specially designed for people who do not speak French to discuss anything related to the French Wikipedia. You can also request assistance here. Messages can be added in any language including French, although relatively few contributors to French Wikipedia are fluent in languages other than French and English.

The number of articles in the French Wikipedia is now 1 616 607.

Briefly:

  • You can ask anything about French language of Wikimedia projects;
  • You can ask anything about French language and French culture (or about the culture of any French-speaking country);
  • You can ask anything about the MediaWiki software;
  • You are very welcome to give us your advice and suggestions about the French Wikipedia;
  • You can use any language to ask questions, but questions in English are more likely to be answered in a timely manner.
  • Bot requests can be made (preferably in French or English) on Wikipédia:Bot/Statut.

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This page exists to help non-French-speaking contributors who wish to contribute to this Wikipedia. If you need any help, feel free to contact someone who will be able to help you in your native language. You can also ask your question in the Bistro for non-French-speakers.

Cette page permet aussi d’aider les contributeurs francophones à trouver un contact pour obtenir des informations sur la Wikipedia anglophone. Si vous avez besoin d’aide, contactez quelqu'un qui pourra vous aider en français et en anglais. Informez-vous aussi sur le Bistro des non-francophones.

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Idea: Write Wikipedia articles on books used as sources (Please translate this message into French)[modifier | modifier le code]

Dear French Wikipedia community,

Please write Wikipedia articles about books used as sources by Wikipedia articles. Having these articles can help Wikipedians determine the trustworthiness and aspects of the books they use as sources.

My instructions:

  • 1. Search a university database like this: http://info.lib.uh.edu - (After entering the book's title, go to the left pane and select "reviews"). If you see at least two book reviews (I believe that the French Wikipedia also asks them to be at least two years apart), there should be notability - You can also get a 14 day trial to Booklist and search for reviews there.
  • 2. If you see book reviews, try using Google to see if they are publicly available. If not, use en:WP:RX (the English Wikipedia resource request page) to obtain personal copies.
  • 3. Write your article using the book reviews as sources."

I hope this proposal can help the community. WhisperToMe (discuter) 10 juillet 2014 à 14:26 (CEST)

Hi,
Message translated into French on le bistro. Greetings, --Floflo (discuter) 10 juillet 2014 à 14:38 (CEST)
Thank you so much! I made a quick correction, so I hope you don't mind! (I added "Type the name of the book") WhisperToMe (discuter) 10 juillet 2014 à 14:54 (CEST)

Al. Blachère[modifier | modifier le code]

Good morning, I would like to ask for some help.

There is an article nominated for deletion on the Hungarian Wikipedia about Al. Blachère, a croquet player of the 1900 Paris Olympic Games. Not much is known about the person digitally, not even his full name, so his notabiliy is strongly questioned. Besides Hungarian, there is only one article existing about him, in Polish. Although there are currently eight on-line sources, but all of them are about the 1900 croquet game, they only mention the player the his results and only available on sports-reference.com. So we are looking for futher information.

First and foremost, my question would be towards those, who are familiar in doing research in libraries or archives in France, if someone could provide us information concerning the whereabouts of French printed sources - or digital sources that Google does not index -, that may contain a brief biography about this person, if available. We are searching for the following data: full name, birth place and date, education info, civil occupation, a brief summary about his sports career, results in other games, time and place of death, maybe name of parents, wife, etc. and a possible photo find would go beyond our expectations.

The best would be if someone could tell exact book-titles and their location, so not just "check Gallica", but for example "check the 1925 French Sports Almanach, published by XY Company, Paris, 1926, 723 pages, which provides short biographies about former croquet players including birth data and photo, a digitalized copy in .pdf is available at www.abcdef.fr/asdfghjkl Menu -> Books -> Search, enter title in the second line, and click on the title among the search results". Or if there are any personal record sheets of the participants of the 1900 Olympic Games available at French National Archives or something?

Thank you very much in advance. Gyurika (discuter) 29 août 2014 à 10:43 (CEST)

Hi Notification Gyrurika :,
I translated and shared your message on the French « bistro ». You may follow this direct link to read the possible answers (don't hesist to ask for a translation if in French), in case of no one answers here.
Thanks, --Floflo (discuter) 29 août 2014 à 11:46 (CEST)

comment faire[modifier | modifier le code]

salue je sui ravis d etre ici mais je ne sais pas comment poser questions? veillez m expliquer. — Le message qui précède, non signé, a été déposé par Djimiallanga01 (discuter).

Bonjour Notification Djimiallanga01 :, tu peux regarder là Aide:Débuter et là Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux. Bonne continuation Kumʞum quoi ? 25 octobre 2014 à 20:23 (CEST)

Last call for translation: VisualEditor News #1—2015[modifier | modifier le code]

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Hi! Apologies if you're reading this message more than once and if it doesn't come in your language. This is an invitation to join translators working on the February's issue of the VisualEditor multilingual newsletter. This time it features an important announcement about a series of meetings where VE tasks on Phabricator will be triaged live and publicly, starting next week. Since we want many people to be aware of this as soon as possible (volunteer developers are especially welcome!), we have a time constraint which means we'll deliver to the wikis on Thursday morning (PST) this week. Thanks a lot in advance, we know you'll do whatever it takes to keep your community up-to-date, and appreciate it a lot. --Elitre (WMF) (discuter) 4 février 2015 à 17:40 (CET)

PS: Here are some instructions. Please go to the translation page: your language should be available from the drop-down menu on the right. Once you've selected it, you'll see the document in English side by side with any translation work already done in your language. You can add new translations or modify existing ones. If you need further help or would like to receive a talk page message to be notified of future translations, please contact me directly.

Request for Gadget review[modifier | modifier le code]

Hi,

Greetings,

Wikimedia commons uses a gadget called AjaxQuickDelete:

  • Gadget descrption at wikimedia commons is as follows:
"Adds the Nominate for deletion and Discuss category link to the toolbox in the sidebar, Move & Replace (filemovers only), Process Duplicates (admins only) links to the appropriate places. This gadget is also used by other gadgets."
  • More info :
I wish and request French and German wikipedians adopt this gadget, if not atleast a peer review that the gadget is prima facia technically stable and safe to use.
Why so ?: Frankly I want to adopt this gadget at mr wikipedia, but before adopting a gadget locally we feel reassured if a gadget is used either at fr or de wikipedia (along with either ta/te/kn/ml wikipedia); since these wiki's wikipedians do have enough technical expertise to take care of safty concerns :).
Thanks and warm regards
Mahitgar (discuter) 22 avril 2015 à 04:39 (CEST)

Usage of primary sources in articles[modifier | modifier le code]

I'm curious about the assertions another user made at Discussion_utilisateur:Arroser#Sources - For an article on Swissôtel, the company website would be the primary source since the company is talking about itself. And the location of the corporate headquarters ("Swissôtel Hotels & Resorts, Balz-Zimmermannstr. 7, 8058 Zurich-Airport, CH. Registered number CH-020.3.925.568-2 ") is a factual statement that has no interpretation. It is used in conjunction with the website of the building, Priora Business Center, to show that the building at that address has the name "Priora Business Center": "Priora Business Center Balsberg Balz-Zimmermann-Strasse 7 CH-8302 Kloten"

So doesn't that mean that I can use the Swissôtel website and the building website just to source the location of the corporate headquarters? WhisperToMe (d) 9 avril 2013 à 06:07 (CEST)

Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) is here[modifier | modifier le code]

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Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on de:Wikipedia:Kurier.

A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. We have now enabled the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) a month ago and two days ago on the English Wikipedia. Today all the remaining Wikipedias followed.

What does having phase 2 enabled here mean? You are now able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!) The current state is just the beginning though. It will be extended based on feedback we get from you now.

How will this work? There are two ways to access the data:

  • Use a parser function like {{#property:p159}} in the wiki text of the article on Wikimedia Foundation. This will return “San Francisco” as that is the headquarter location of the non-profit.
  • For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.

We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:headquarter location}} instead of {{#property:p159}}. The complete plan for this is here.

Where can I test this? You can test it on test2 if you don't want to do it in an article here.

Where can I find more information and ask questions? We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.


We are excited about taking yet another step towards allowing all Wikipedias share structured data and collect and curate it together. --Lydia Pintscher 24 avril 2013 à 21:06 (CEST)

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Unhinged ?[modifier | modifier le code]

Hi everyone ;-)

Comment pourrait-on traduire correctement unhinged en parlant du contenu d'un bouquin ? Entre dérangé, déséquilibré ou délirant, je reste dubitatif autant qu'insatisfait... Thanks a lot in advance ;-) --Bibliorock (d) 7 juin 2013 à 13:38 (CEST)